A Guild Leader's wish list / Features you'd like to see implemented - Guild Wars Forums

Darwin the Fabulous · Aug 09, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Howdy all. I'm not usually big on forums but after some recent guild issues I thought I'd make a post. I've been a GW player since the first week back in '05 and I'm still playing. I was leader of a small guild until about October/November of 05, and then leader of another from April '06 to present.

There have been a couple of features I have been hoping to see implemented from the very beginning and they have never come to be implemented, some of which I think would have been obvious and welcome changes.

For example, setting permissions for officers. My guild has a comparably hefty number of officers, mostly consisting of very loyal or founding members who have been helpful along the way. However, one or two of them have the habit of promoting everybody they invite to their own level, and I'm hesitant to demote those officers in question down when I'm demoting those they promoted, as I don't want to hurt the feelings of someone who has been with me more or less since this guild was started.

That's a pretty obvious one, from a guild leader's perspective. But delving further, I think it would be nice to see a couple of extra ranks as well. Maybe a lower officer who could invite but not promote, start GvGs, or whatever else-- this could fit in nicely with the idea of adjustable permissions. It would be extra cool to have power to rename the rankings from 'Officer' to something less boring as well.

Anyway, those are my ideas. What kind of features would you like to see them implement in the future?

Rain Over Pebbles · Aug 09, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11

I completely 2nd your post, Darwin. Different levels of officers and permissions would totally rock.

I'd like to have the "Party Search" feature work within a guild or alliance, so that people can more easily form groups (some people are shy about asking for groups on chat sometimes.)

It would be cool to have the ability to see the current roster of other guilds in your own alliance.

It would ROCK to be able to apply comments to names on your friends list. Technically not directly related to guilds, but as a guild and alliance leader, my friends list is important for keeping contacts close at hand. It's terrible to forget who people are.

I'd love to be able to change the name of my alliance in-game. In-game, we're referred to as the "Roses of the Moonlight Sigil Alliance", but outside of the game, we're known as "Chronicles of Auspicious Fate". I would LOVE to be able to change our alliance's name to "Chronicles of Auspicious Fate".

Ability to choose between a Guild Cape, and an alliance cape. So, if your alliance is doing an event, everyone in that alliance can wear the alliance cape.

Speaking of capes... the ability to store and retrieve cape designs, similar to the way build templates work. So, a guild could seasonally change thier cape, or use a certain style of cape for certain guild events, etc. (Frankly, this would make the above suggestion moot)

More flexibility for scrimmaging - Setting rules, limits on the numbers of players, different arenas, etc.

A Zaishen GvG AI that we could play against which would help out inexperienced players become familliar with the feel of the game without the stress of PvP.

Sadly, I gotta get running, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.

Rain

Guild: www.rosesofthemoonlightsigil.org
Alliance: http://alliance.deadfiredesigns.com/index.php

Kendar Muert · Aug 09, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27

The only thing I can think of that you havent listed would be the ability to put your guild sigil on your shield or something. Maybe have the ability to attach a banner with your guild to the top of the staff or something.

milan · Aug 09, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Couldn't agree more with permissions. I have two officers in my guild that I don't really consider officers, more as co-leaders. I'd like to be able to set different permissions like - recruiting, promoting, starting GVG and so on.

This would also work well with my other big wish, a guild vault. Drop things in, take things out, permissions would allow you to flag the members you want to have access to it. Although I know that this is likely to be a target for abuse by members of some guilds.

Going further down my wish list, mini games for guild halls, would love that, along with an oppurtunity to customise shields/weapons etc with the guild crest/image (from those currently available for capes).

Going even further down is a treasury, I know it's unlikely to happen due to the sheer size of the capacity for abuse, but then again, it all goes back to the permissions.

Right at the bottom of the list is a *Voluntary* log of faction donations, again the problem I can see with that is guilds would just say it's mandatory for members to have it switched on to see who is donating.

Edit - One more thing - perhaps a 'top donater' for faction on a weekly basis list? Top 5 or 10?

distilledwill · Aug 10, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

What about a minor discount on some items at the merchant? Like 10g off salvage kits or suchlike? nothing on the scale of the discount merchant at a town owned by your alliance, but something to give incentive to characters to use the hall on a regular basis. Ours is usually dead apart from the occasional group meeting up for AB or to do a quest.

I love the idea of scaled officers, id like to be able to promote a few more people to a secondary officer position without alienating them from the other members or cheapening the role of full officer.

freakdaddy · Aug 10, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Permission Mask for Officers=Awesome
Guild Vault=Good Idea,but limited to those with ^^^
Guild Emblem on various Items=Awesome

Heres my idea what about a NPC you can talk to that will allow you to display in your GH items (Such as Elemental swords..etc)that you have collected and want everyone to see.Only the person that is in that Guild can put it up and take it down. The GH's are big enough to accomidate even the largest guilds with plaques and banners with the display
" Yadda yadda yadda's Elemental Sword"

2 cents deposited

Tutis Evito · Aug 10, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Some way a guild leader can tell how many factions each guild member has donated that day

Xanatos_De_Creon · Aug 20, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36

I'm all for seeing the other alliance member's rosters. It shouldn't be a hard option to add, click the alliance tab, choose a cape - the roster opens, click the tab again you're back the the full listing.

Floski · Aug 20, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Quote:

I'd like to be able to set different permissions like - recruiting, promoting, starting GVG and so on.

Officers can already do all that...

I'm not against the idea of permissions but I just don't see the point. An officer is doing stuff you don't like? I'm sorry but warn him and if he does it again, demote demote demote. You're the leader, you're not acting like one though.

milan · Aug 20, 2007, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floski

Officers can already do all that...

I'm not against the idea of permissions but I just don't see the point. An officer is doing stuff you don't like? I'm sorry but warn him and if he does it again, demote demote demote. You're the leader, you're not acting like one though.

Yes officers can already do all that, you missed my point it seemed - Set permissions so officers can start GvG but not recruit etc etc.

It's not about them doing stuff you don't like, it's about setting permissions to what you want certain people to able to do.

Darwin the Fabulous · Aug 21, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floski

Officers can already do all that...

I'm not against the idea of permissions but I just don't see the point. An officer is doing stuff you don't like? I'm sorry but warn him and if he does it again, demote demote demote. You're the leader, you're not acting like one though.

It's not as though this person isn't recruiting good people, it's that he promotes absolutely everyone he recruits to officer. At work I can't promote people under me to my level, and if I tried to do that, it wouldn't indicate that my superiors weren't doing their job.

Floski · Aug 21, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darwin the Fabulous

It's not as though this person isn't recruiting good people, it's that he promotes absolutely everyone he recruits to officer. At work I can't promote people under me to my level, and if I tried to do that, it wouldn't indicate that my superiors weren't doing their job.

Yeah, in your guild, the superiors aren't doing their job. That's YOU. You set the rules. Don't want someone promoting? Tell him he's not allowed to. What's the difference between that and permissions? Worried about feelings? You think someone is going to not feel "hurt" if you don't make him a full officer?

"Why can't I be a full officer, don't you trust me? Aren't I good enough?"
"No it's just... permissions let me set restrictions on you without hurting your feelings."
"Yeah, my feelings are totally unhurt!"

Darwin the Fabulous · Aug 21, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floski

Yeah, in your guild, the superiors aren't doing their job. That's YOU. You set the rules. Don't want someone promoting? Tell him he's not allowed to. What's the difference between that and permissions? Worried about feelings? You think someone is going to not feel "hurt" if you don't make him a full officer?

I don't necessarily want to set individual permissions per person. I'd rather do it based on the rankings themselves. e.g. Officers can start GvG, Invite to the Guild, Officers can't promote, etc. Even allowing members to send invites to others would be great. Adjusting these per rank might help different guilds to find what fits for them.

The difference between a permissions mask and bossing people around is that, just because I'm a guild leader it doesn't mean I want to yell at people time and time again for breaking what I said are the rules. I'd rather be playing the game, and likewise have everyone else enjoy playing the game, and let a simple checkbox on an options tab somewhere put an end to the issue rather than a drawn out argument.

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03

floski just wants to start a mini conflict lol, not sure why he or she posted.
i agree 100% with all ideas posted above personalising the gh is something id love to see

and the permissions idea is great but the one thing i know would almost never happen is to be able to design your own guild hall, one can only dream...

macie28 · Aug 28, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24

I actually think Flowski is right, it's really a guild leader's job to set the rules. Having and imposing those rules can be done without "yelling at people time and time again" and you can do it without "bossing" anyone around. It's about leadership and knowing your role as the guild leader. Set a definite organization on your guild and you won't have this kind of problem.
I do agree with the proposal of having "permissions" on the officer list and even added ranks, it should really be helpful to a guild leader's job.

PS : edited my post to be less biting to the OP, i found his post very much like whining.

Lord Feathers · Aug 28, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36

The game already gets some good support as far as ANET helping the guilds out there in it's fan base. I'd really love to see the alliance roster myself to see whos on in the alliance, I realize we have alliance chat but I feel it would help cement an alliance and joint activities a bit better. I also love the idea about your emblem on a shield device that would simply rock, perhaps put an NPC in the guild hall that would do this for a cost ?

One thing I've done myself is try a joint forums. This helps bring the guilds in the alliance closer and keeps discussion and chat in one place where folks can meet others, talk, plan and do the things that cement gaming partners for the future.

I also own the FROZEN ISLE Guild Hall and I have a major complaint there. It's a dwarven hall and I can't get a merchant to serve one single ALE !!!! I'd have to say this bothers this old ranger the most

scarlettpayne · Aug 30, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

I would like to see a few things.

1. I would like to have 2 officer sections
First Officers - which would keep all the duties that they have now as officers but would be for the more trusted officers or co- guild leaders position
Second Officers would be for the newer officers and would only have the permission to recruit.

The reason why i say this is because there are people that you think you know and that you trust enough with the duties of an officer and then they turn around and kick all your members out of your guild then leave. This is something that I have been seeing a lot more of lately and it happened to me in my first guild.

The other thing I would like to see is an alliance rooster list. So I could see who was online in the alliance a little better.

Also I would like to see the merchant and traders in the guild hall maybe sell to the guild members only at a reduced rate. Like how the towns have a 25% off I think that guilds should have 15% off or something. Because we pay so much for the service to have it in the guild. I feel that there should be some privilege to the guild for having the trader there.

Another thing I wish for is the ability to change our guild names. Sometimes you start a guild and the name is ok but then you get a various collection of souls in the guild and the feel of the guild changes or you have more input at to what the name or tag should read.

riftbreaker raven · Aug 31, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37

I like the idea of differing ranks of officers with each rank having its own privledges.
Guild Vault: I have been begging for this for a while now, i hope we can get one eventually.
Guild Emblem on the shields etc. also a good idea, especially since not everyone likes wearing the cape.
Would also like to have an alliance roster. Friends list is starting to get a little crowded.

Only thing i think i could add to what has already been mentioned, give us a few more ways to customize the guild halls themselves, banners, statues, something, some are massive and just kinda feel....empty. And maybe a few more npcs, hero skill trainer for instance.

UnforgivenIII · Sep 17, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57

first off, I agree completely with this, seeing as my guild is ruled by a triumvirate it would be a great thing to have more ranks and make some of those distinctions clearer, but also I remember one time when Gaile Gray showed up in Kamadan our current leader at the time was there and he asked her about changes like this and she said that the guild system was being worked on...but then i've heard nothing about it since. He's got the screenshots of the question and her answer somewhere. and for those who want to know, it happened the time she showed up in Kamadan's english dist and started chewing out some players who were using exceedingly foul language...and then it turned into a Q&A session...that was also the first time she showed up in 15k...i remember because she was showing it off, lol

Popcorn Devil · Sep 18, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11

Completely agree with the permissions idea, I used to own a guild that had reached the 100 cap of members, all were active. An officer promoted a friend, and that friend of his kicked everyone in the guild. I didn't bother with it anymore.

Aug 09, 2007, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#1
Darwin the Fabulous Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2007 Guild: The Golden Mongooses Profession: R/Rt	A Guild Leader's wish list / Features you'd like to see implemented Howdy all. I'm not usually big on forums but after some recent guild issues I thought I'd make a post. I've been a GW player since the first week back in '05 and I'm still playing. I was leader of a small guild until about October/November of 05, and then leader of another from April '06 to present. There have been a couple of features I have been hoping to see implemented from the very beginning and they have never come to be implemented, some of which I think would have been obvious and welcome changes. For example, setting permissions for officers. My guild has a comparably hefty number of officers, mostly consisting of very loyal or founding members who have been helpful along the way. However, one or two of them have the habit of promoting everybody they invite to their own level, and I'm hesitant to demote those officers in question down when I'm demoting those they promoted, as I don't want to hurt the feelings of someone who has been with me more or less since this guild was started. That's a pretty obvious one, from a guild leader's perspective. But delving further, I think it would be nice to see a couple of extra ranks as well. Maybe a lower officer who could invite but not promote, start GvGs, or whatever else-- this could fit in nicely with the idea of adjustable permissions. It would be extra cool to have power to rename the rankings from 'Officer' to something less boring as well. Anyway, those are my ideas. What kind of features would you like to see them implement in the future?

Aug 09, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58	#4
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	Couldn't agree more with permissions. I have two officers in my guild that I don't really consider officers, more as co-leaders. I'd like to be able to set different permissions like - recruiting, promoting, starting GVG and so on. This would also work well with my other big wish, a guild vault. Drop things in, take things out, permissions would allow you to flag the members you want to have access to it. Although I know that this is likely to be a target for abuse by members of some guilds. Going further down my wish list, mini games for guild halls, would love that, along with an oppurtunity to customise shields/weapons etc with the guild crest/image (from those currently available for capes). Going even further down is a treasury, I know it's unlikely to happen due to the sheer size of the capacity for abuse, but then again, it all goes back to the permissions. Right at the bottom of the list is a Voluntary log of faction donations, again the problem I can see with that is guilds would just say it's mandatory for members to have it switched on to see who is donating. Edit - One more thing - perhaps a 'top donater' for faction on a weekly basis list? Top 5 or 10? Last edited by milan; Aug 09, 2007 at 11:03 PM // 23:03..

Aug 28, 2007, 12:24 AM // 00:24	#15
macie28 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Surrey, BC Guild: [DL] Desolation Lords Profession: A/	I actually think Flowski is right, it's really a guild leader's job to set the rules. Having and imposing those rules can be done without "yelling at people time and time again" and you can do it without "bossing" anyone around. It's about leadership and knowing your role as the guild leader. Set a definite organization on your guild and you won't have this kind of problem. I do agree with the proposal of having "permissions" on the officer list and even added ranks, it should really be helpful to a guild leader's job. PS : edited my post to be less biting to the OP, i found his post very much like whining. Last edited by macie28; Aug 28, 2007 at 12:27 AM // 00:27..

Aug 09, 2007, 05:11 PM // 17:11	#2
Rain Over Pebbles Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS] Profession: Mo/Rt	I completely 2nd your post, Darwin. Different levels of officers and permissions would totally rock. I'd like to have the "Party Search" feature work within a guild or alliance, so that people can more easily form groups (some people are shy about asking for groups on chat sometimes.) It would be cool to have the ability to see the current roster of other guilds in your own alliance. It would ROCK to be able to apply comments to names on your friends list. Technically not directly related to guilds, but as a guild and alliance leader, my friends list is important for keeping contacts close at hand. It's terrible to forget who people are. I'd love to be able to change the name of my alliance in-game. In-game, we're referred to as the "Roses of the Moonlight Sigil Alliance", but outside of the game, we're known as "Chronicles of Auspicious Fate". I would LOVE to be able to change our alliance's name to "Chronicles of Auspicious Fate". Ability to choose between a Guild Cape, and an alliance cape. So, if your alliance is doing an event, everyone in that alliance can wear the alliance cape. Speaking of capes... the ability to store and retrieve cape designs, similar to the way build templates work. So, a guild could seasonally change thier cape, or use a certain style of cape for certain guild events, etc. (Frankly, this would make the above suggestion moot) More flexibility for scrimmaging - Setting rules, limits on the numbers of players, different arenas, etc. A Zaishen GvG AI that we could play against which would help out inexperienced players become familliar with the feel of the game without the stress of PvP. Sadly, I gotta get running, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head. Rain Guild: www.rosesofthemoonlightsigil.org Alliance: http://alliance.deadfiredesigns.com/index.php

Aug 09, 2007, 05:27 PM // 17:27	#3
Kendar Muert Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Profession: E/	The only thing I can think of that you havent listed would be the ability to put your guild sigil on your shield or something. Maybe have the ability to attach a banner with your guild to the top of the staff or something.

Aug 10, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#5
distilledwill Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Blighty Guild: The Legion of the Blue Blade Profession: R/Mo	What about a minor discount on some items at the merchant? Like 10g off salvage kits or suchlike? nothing on the scale of the discount merchant at a town owned by your alliance, but something to give incentive to characters to use the hall on a regular basis. Ours is usually dead apart from the occasional group meeting up for AB or to do a quest. I love the idea of scaled officers, id like to be able to promote a few more people to a secondary officer position without alienating them from the other members or cheapening the role of full officer.

Aug 10, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59	#6
freakdaddy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Guild: Tales of Heroes[myth] Profession: A/Me	Permission Mask for Officers=Awesome Guild Vault=Good Idea,but limited to those with ^^^ Guild Emblem on various Items=Awesome Heres my idea what about a NPC you can talk to that will allow you to display in your GH items (Such as Elemental swords..etc)that you have collected and want everyone to see.Only the person that is in that Guild can put it up and take it down. The GH's are big enough to accomidate even the largest guilds with plaques and banners with the display " Yadda yadda yadda's Elemental Sword" 2 cents deposited

Aug 10, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56	#7
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	Some way a guild leader can tell how many factions each guild member has donated that day

Aug 20, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36	#8
Xanatos_De_Creon Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Missouri Guild: Cursed Kitty Cats [CKC] Profession: Rt/	I'm all for seeing the other alliance member's rosters. It shouldn't be a hard option to add, click the alliance tab, choose a cape - the roster opens, click the tab again you're back the the full listing.

Aug 22, 2007, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#14
Performance Pudding Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: post ascalon Guild: Over The [Wall] Profession: W/	floski just wants to start a mini conflict lol, not sure why he or she posted. i agree 100% with all ideas posted above personalising the gh is something id love to see and the permissions idea is great but the one thing i know would almost never happen is to be able to design your own guild hall, one can only dream...

Aug 28, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36	#16
Lord Feathers Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return Profession: R/P	The game already gets some good support as far as ANET helping the guilds out there in it's fan base. I'd really love to see the alliance roster myself to see whos on in the alliance, I realize we have alliance chat but I feel it would help cement an alliance and joint activities a bit better. I also love the idea about your emblem on a shield device that would simply rock, perhaps put an NPC in the guild hall that would do this for a cost ? One thing I've done myself is try a joint forums. This helps bring the guilds in the alliance closer and keeps discussion and chat in one place where folks can meet others, talk, plan and do the things that cement gaming partners for the future. I also own the FROZEN ISLE Guild Hall and I have a major complaint there. It's a dwarven hall and I can't get a merchant to serve one single ALE !!!! I'd have to say this bothers this old ranger the most

Aug 30, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36	#17
scarlettpayne Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Chambers Of Death (COD) Profession: R/Mo	I would like to see a few things. 1. I would like to have 2 officer sections First Officers - which would keep all the duties that they have now as officers but would be for the more trusted officers or co- guild leaders position Second Officers would be for the newer officers and would only have the permission to recruit. The reason why i say this is because there are people that you think you know and that you trust enough with the duties of an officer and then they turn around and kick all your members out of your guild then leave. This is something that I have been seeing a lot more of lately and it happened to me in my first guild. The other thing I would like to see is an alliance rooster list. So I could see who was online in the alliance a little better. Also I would like to see the merchant and traders in the guild hall maybe sell to the guild members only at a reduced rate. Like how the towns have a 25% off I think that guilds should have 15% off or something. Because we pay so much for the service to have it in the guild. I feel that there should be some privilege to the guild for having the trader there. Another thing I wish for is the ability to change our guild names. Sometimes you start a guild and the name is ok but then you get a various collection of souls in the guild and the feel of the guild changes or you have more input at to what the name or tag should read.

Aug 31, 2007, 08:37 AM // 08:37	#18
riftbreaker raven Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hattiesburg, ms Guild: Ravens Asylum Profession: A/	I like the idea of differing ranks of officers with each rank having its own privledges. Guild Vault: I have been begging for this for a while now, i hope we can get one eventually. Guild Emblem on the shields etc. also a good idea, especially since not everyone likes wearing the cape. Would also like to have an alliance roster. Friends list is starting to get a little crowded. Only thing i think i could add to what has already been mentioned, give us a few more ways to customize the guild halls themselves, banners, statues, something, some are massive and just kinda feel....empty. And maybe a few more npcs, hero skill trainer for instance.

Sep 17, 2007, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#19
UnforgivenIII Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Vindictive Malevolence (VM) Profession: N/Me	first off, I agree completely with this, seeing as my guild is ruled by a triumvirate it would be a great thing to have more ranks and make some of those distinctions clearer, but also I remember one time when Gaile Gray showed up in Kamadan our current leader at the time was there and he asked her about changes like this and she said that the guild system was being worked on...but then i've heard nothing about it since. He's got the screenshots of the question and her answer somewhere. and for those who want to know, it happened the time she showed up in Kamadan's english dist and started chewing out some players who were using exceedingly foul language...and then it turned into a Q&A session...that was also the first time she showed up in 15k...i remember because she was showing it off, lol

Sep 18, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11	#20
Popcorn Devil Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Guild: [CLK] Profession: D/	Completely agree with the permissions idea, I used to own a guild that had reached the 100 cap of members, all were active. An officer promoted a friend, and that friend of his kicked everyone in the guild. I didn't bother with it anymore.